Cambrian Bunny Found! Burst my Spleen laughing at this one:)

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simonecuttlefishUser avatarPosts: 114Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:24 pm Gender: Pinecone

Post Cambrian Bunny Found! Burst my Spleen laughing at this one:)

Exerpt from http://www.talkingsquid.net/archives/133:

"The discovery of a fossilised rabbit in the Burgess Shale may demolish one of the pillars of modern science, the theory of evolution. The late J. B. S. Haldane famously said that all it would take to falsify evolution is a single Cambrian rabbit fossil, and that is exactly what has been uncovered by paleontologist Dr Wilfred Splenebyrst of the London School of Ergonomics."

CHECKMATE ATHEISTS! :twisted:

1) paleontologist Dr Wilfred Splenebyrst (Spleen Burst?) :lol:
2) London School of Ergonomics :?:
3) "In a related story, the journal Nature will be renamed Realm from the next volume." (Later in the article) :roll:

Be VERY CAREFUL putting up silly/ironic/satirical materials - it just might get taken seriously (and amusingly/sadly this has been taken seriously by some it seems).

And on a serious note, I recently saw "Darwins Dilema" http://www.darwinsdilemma.org/ and was horrified right from the beginning - not at all the REALLY cool Cambrian creature animations, but at the pernicious tone and obvious lunatic bias. I went looking for some web resources for examples of Cambrian evolution. I understand that there are possible problems with early fossilisation, like differences in ocean and atmospheric chemistry, and difficulties with soft body fossilisation, and that there is two schools on the Cambrian explosion; 1) Massive and very rapid development of life forms or 2) A long evolutionary history that is obfuscated by a damaged/missing fossil record from the time.

I would really appreciate any links you might be able to supply with specific detail on early/pre Cambrian evolution, particularly in regard to more advanced life forms. I just HATE not being tooled up to counter the POISON that is "Darwins Dilema", and it seems the poison is spreading.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWkx-3N2qoM The Atheist Experience #650; starting from about 2 minutes in.

I've been finding the materials here interesting so far.
http://cpedia.com/wiki?q=Cambrian&guess_ambig=Keith+Calder+Cambrian
http://www.asa3.org/asa/pscf/1997/pscf12-97miller2.html

(I used to think "Show me the evolving trilobite fossil and I'll choke a creationist with it - YAYYYY!)
http://www.peripatus.gen.nz/taxa/arthropoda/trilobita/trilobite.html

NOT helpfull guff that needs a good, hard "thinking" at :!:
http://ezinearticles.com/?No-Transitional-Fossils-in-Cambrian-Explosion---A-Challenge-to-Darwinism&id=3238424

(OK - that was my 1st post ... how did I do? :)
I have no requirement for the supernatural or magic to explain anything, finding purpose in life other than trying to enjoy it, fantasies to explain wonder, fear that reason might trivialise me, or demand of wonders greater than those that are evident.
Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:37 am
nemesissUser avatarPosts: 1236Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:29 pm

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not bad, almost troll-style.

funny indeed, too bad his photoshop skills weren't that great...
Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:22 am
metricdragonUser avatarPosts: 69Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:19 pm Gender: Male

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I'm not sure how the Cambrian explosion is supposed to falsify evolution, evolution describes the diversification of life, the origin of species, not the origin of life. That's like saying that the evolution of transistor technology is false because the first transistor appeared in it's full form, similar to what we have today.

So clearly computer technology hasn't advanced for 50 years.

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Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:52 pm
GenesForLifePosts: 66Joined: Tue May 18, 2010 8:03 pm Gender: Male

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http://www2.nau.edu/~bio222-c/Reserve%2 ... l_1997.pdf
This details a late precambrian bilaterian mollusc called Kimberella.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/long/147/3658/563
This bears out the fact that we have known of precambrian fossils for a long long time, and also that their existence has been denied for an equally long time by mythology fetishists ;)

http://palaeontology.palass-pubs.org/pd ... 99-628.pdf
This paper details a rich collection of fossils from Ediacara in South Australia, and was published in 1969. So I suspect those putting up the precambrian canard haven't read anything that dates back to a time after 1969.

From this http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o ... b10bd86ddd

we have the following abstract.

The evolutionary divergence of cnidarian and bilaterian lineages from their remote metazoan ancestor occurred at an unknown depth in time before the Cambrian, since crown group representatives of each are found in Lower Cambrian fossil assemblages. We report here a variety of putative embryonic, larval, and adult microfossils deriving from Precambrian phosphorite deposits of Southwest China, which may predate the Cambrian radiation by 25-45 million years. These are most probably of cnidarian affinity. Large numbers of fossilized early planula-like larvae were observed under the microscope in sections. Though several forms are represented, the majority display remarkable conformity, which is inconsistent with the alternative that they are artifactual mineral inclusions. Some of these fossils are preserved in such high resolution that individual cells can be discerned. We confirm in detail an earlier report of the presence in the same deposits of tabulates, an extinct crown group anthozoan form. Other sections reveal structures that most closely resemble sections of basal modern corals. A large number of fossils similar to modern hydrozoan gastrulae were also observed. These again displayed great morphological consistency. Though only a single example is available, a microscopic animal remarkably similar to a modern adult hydrozoan is also presented. Taken together, the new observations reported in this paper indicate the existence of a diverse and already differentiated cnidarian fauna, long before the Cambrian evolutionary event. It follows that at least stem group bilaterians must also have been present at this time.


And by the way, here is a search listing for a total of ten peer reviewed papers, with full paper access to 6, one is freely available after free registration at AAAS/Science.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez
Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:03 am
simonecuttlefishUser avatarPosts: 114Joined: Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:24 pm Gender: Pinecone

Post Re: Cambrian Bunny Found! Burst my Spleen laughing at this o

GenesForLife wrote: Everything you wrote :)


Thanks heaps - I had been to pub med and seen a couple of interesting articles, especially the one:
The Cambrian explosion triggered by critical turning point in genome size evolution.
Li DJ, Zhang S.
but thought it would all be pay per view. I'll be more persistent in future. The info you linked was just what I was looking for, much better than the early and pre Cambrian "some spongy jelly thingies and worm tracks" rubbish I had been looking at. Nice to see so many clear lineages becoming apparent so early on.

Thanks again for your time.
I have no requirement for the supernatural or magic to explain anything, finding purpose in life other than trying to enjoy it, fantasies to explain wonder, fear that reason might trivialise me, or demand of wonders greater than those that are evident.
Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:30 pm
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