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Is evolution a fact?
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Bernhard.visscherPosts: 1099Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:15 am

Post Re: Is evolution a fact?

Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

Bernhard, you'll recall I liked to a article which described the "tree" as more of a thicket? You even referenced that article when you spoke about the thicket.

That's the thicket to which I'm referring.

Now, can you address the various points raised by all the posters which you've studiously avoided?

Kindest regards,

James



Yes I know you referenced a thicket.... Now I was asking for a model of this thicket.

But it's ok you asserted you answered the question. It is not surprising.
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Greetings,

Bernhard.visscher wrote:Objections in the form of a question... Is not a point.

If you ask me a question on "is evolution a fact" thread... That is not an objection. That's a question.

What point have you guys made? Like really?

Tree of life...evolution concept... Can't even bring a model.
Fossil record... Abandoned
Lucy... Abandoned
Ardi... Abandoned
Age of earth... Abandoned
Horse evolution... Abandoned.
Horizontal gene transfer..... Abandoned
Thicket... Abandoned
Tiktaalic... Abandoned
Darwin... Abandoned
Aron ra.... Abandoned
Whale evolution.... Abandoned
Science ... Abandoned.
Telomeric fusion... Abandoned.
Dawkins.... Abandoned

E pensando ti " evolution" mi sopagriunse uno Soave sonno.

Sweet is understanding what is and what is not possible

You haven't addressed any of these points other than to deny everything.

That's not the basis for a discussion.

Even now, you assert that these points were "abandoned" by us - which is a laughable claim.

Kindest regards,

James
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:55 pm
Bernhard.visscherPosts: 1099Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:15 am

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Laughable sure. Prove me wrong

Give me a thicket you agree with.
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:57 pm
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Greetings,

Bernhard.visscher wrote:Laughable sure. Prove me wrong

Give me a thicket you agree with.

I've already answered this question.

Kindest regards,

James
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:00 pm
SpecialFrogUser avatarPosts: 827Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:13 pmLocation: Great White North Gender: Tree

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Apparently pointing out that Bernhard's claims about a particular topic are wrong and him refusing to engage with the response counts as us abandoning the topic.
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:08 pm
Bernhard.visscherPosts: 1099Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:15 am

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Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,

Bernhard.visscher wrote:Laughable sure. Prove me wrong

Give me a thicket you agree with.

I've already answered this question.

Kindest regards,

James



If somebody can find where dragon glas brought a thicket model...that would be appreciated.

He asserts he has answered my question.

The question was... Can you bring a thicket model you agree with?
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:35 pm
SpecialFrogUser avatarPosts: 827Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:13 pmLocation: Great White North Gender: Tree

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Bernhard, here are several maps of Toronto. Which one do you agree with?
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Greetings,

Bernhard.visscher wrote:Give me a thicket you agree with.
Dragan Glas wrote:I've already answered this question.

Kindest regards,

James

If somebody can find where dragon glas brought a thicket model...that would be appreciated.

He asserts he has answered my question.

The question was... Can you bring a thicket model you agree with?

Nobody else should have to do this for you - you're a man, not a child.

Kindest regards,

James
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:13 pm
itsdemtitansBloggerUser avatarPosts: 706Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:36 pm Gender: Male

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Dragan Glas wrote:Greetings,
Nobody else should have to do this for you - you're a man, not a child.

Kindest regards,

James


No, see, you answered his question. But he didn't like the answer. Which is the equivalent of no answer. Just like him refusing to engage rebuttals of his claims is us abandoning evidence.
Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:29 pm
ProlescumWebhamsterUser avatarPosts: 5005Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:41 pmLocation: Peptone-upon-Sores

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If the OP doesn't understand how scrolling through a conversation thread he began works, is it worth even having it open for further commentary?
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australopithecusLime TordUser avatarPosts: 4304Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 pmLocation: Kernow Gender: Time Lord

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I'm struggling for a reason to say yes.
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:14 pm
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Greetings,

I'm prepared to see if he can manage that, accept the answer already provided - and then answer the many issues raised throughout the thread.

Kindest regards,

James
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:31 pm
itsdemtitansBloggerUser avatarPosts: 706Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:36 pm Gender: Male

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I know which post answers his question too. But I'm willing to bet he's gonna claim you're just dodging.
Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:39 pm
Bernhard.visscherPosts: 1099Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:15 am

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Dragon glas.

I'm not saying you didn't say thicket was the current model.

I mean you went as far as saying only the current model..the thicket... Was correct.

Now what I am asking is a model of this thicket.

I am not asking if you said thicket, or evidence you said thicket... You did say thicket.

I am asking for

A) a current model of this thicket
B) a model of this thicket you agree with.

What i am not asking for:

A) books, articles, wiki links
B) evidence you used the word thicket.
C) assertions you have already given. The evidence.


So in simple summation:

Can you post a diagram of the thicket model that you agree with?
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:45 pm
Bernhard.visscherPosts: 1099Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:15 am

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itsdemtitans wrote:I know which post answers his question too. But I'm willing to bet he's gonna claim you're just dodging.



Well then quote it. Does it give a thicket model? Then I am wrong. I can't find it.

If you can quote it and bring it here, I was wrong. Really it's that simple.
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:47 pm
itsdemtitansBloggerUser avatarPosts: 706Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:36 pm Gender: Male

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I doubt you'd accept it, because the model is given in a link he gave you. But you don't want links.
Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:57 pm
Bernhard.visscherPosts: 1099Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:15 am

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Prolescum wrote:If the OP doesn't understand how scrolling through a conversation thread he began works, is it worth even having it open for further commentary?



The OP was Aron ra. But I think you are referring to me, if it can be found by scrolling through.. Then post it.

Why is asking for evidence always like pulling teeth?

Just post the current model that you agree with... Sheesh. Just because dragan glas asserts its a thicket, then gives me no diagram of the thicket... I'm supposed to accept its a thicket? No I would like to see the diagram that he agreed with to claim that it's a thicket.

No diagram? Then just say there are no diagrams of the thicket.
God only knows how many tree/thicket/ banyan diagrams are floating on the Internet, if I pick one, y'all just say I'm cherry picking the data.


Every time I ask for evidence I get assertion that it has been given. Well then guess what I am blind, I forget, I whatever, just repost the evidence, quote the page number.

Why is it not possible dragan glas did not bring a thicket model? Are you saying he did? Quote the page number and post it here. Is that so hard?

That is why I am asking others.. I say no he didn't bring thicket model, dragan glas says yes he did.... Now if you guys claim it can be found by scrolling through.. Then quote it, if dragan glass agrees with that particular ticket... Then I am wrong.

If I say no I can't find it.. I can't really bring the evidence it is here on this thread now can I? If dragan glas says yes.. Then it's pretty easy to simply quote it... Reference page number.... And then I will be wrong.

I hope that is plain enough English...
Atheism will never posses the knowledge God does not exist. Bernhard visscher
Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:00 pm
Bernhard.visscherPosts: 1099Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:15 am

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itsdemtitans wrote:I doubt you'd accept it, because the model is given in a link he gave you. But you don't want links.



Then paste the diagram... Sheesh. do you have to be taught how to import an image?
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:01 pm
SpecialFrogUser avatarPosts: 827Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:13 pmLocation: Great White North Gender: Tree

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Bernhard.visscher wrote:Why is asking for evidence always like pulling teeth?

People are strangely reluctant to do the work of giving you the evidence you ask for when you don't appear to read it when they do and continue to demand it after it has been provided.

Go figure.
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:09 pm
Bernhard.visscherPosts: 1099Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:15 am

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According to wiki... This is the current tree of life.

Since it is current you therefore agree.

Claiming " the current model is the correct one" (dragan glas)

Now the question is do you accept this image, above, as the current tree of life? It's a yes/no question

If no, please explain why. If this diagram is not current.. Then bring current diagram.
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:12 pm
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