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Votebot Anatomy 101 - Part 1

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Votebot Anatomy 101 - Part 1
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Blog of ReasonHelperUser avatarPosts: 240Joined: Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:28 pmLocation: League of Reason

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Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:01 am
AndromedasWakeLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 598Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:38 pmLocation: Captain's Chair, League HQ Gender: Cake

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Outstanding. It would be great for all Leaguers to learn about the anatomy of votebot software. Afterall, knowing is half the battle! ;)
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PulsarUser avatarPosts: 872Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:52 pmLocation: Belgium

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Thanks a lot Cosmic, much appreciated.
Maybe you intend to anwer it in a future post, but - if you'd have the power to do something about it - do you have any solutions to prevent votebotting? Not that Youtube would listen, of course. It's easier to get a response from god than from the Youtube staff.
I don't understand their total apathy. I understand it must be impossible to monitor the millions of videos, but the current anarchy is ridiculous. Same with the sockpuppet accounts, those trolls should be kicked out permanently. And don't get me started on the video commenting system...
/rant.
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:07 pm
CosmicSporkLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 929Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:36 pmLocation: UK Gender: Cake

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Yep I intend to cover that in later posts, I'm not sure how many parts this will have but I intend to get as much information as I can out there :)

And I agree, the sockpuppet account problem is pretty much the basis for any major issues with votebotting and the like. There needs to be a serious change in order to help prevent the creation of these accounts so easily.
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Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm
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Th1sWasATriumphLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 415Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:24 amLocation: About two feet behind AndromedasWake, with a brick in a sock

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You should do more blogging, Spork. We need to be told these things.
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Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:29 am
SchrodingersFinchLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 275Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:25 pmLocation: Finland Gender: Male

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Youtube stores a lot of data in the video insight. It shows the region of the votes and unique users so Youtube probably has IP address stored somewhere. All of my one-star votes came from Canada, by only 1-6 unique users.

Dealing with votebotters shouldn't be that hard for Youtube. It should also be quite easy to restore the ratings.
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Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:05 am
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CosmicSporkLeague LegendUser avatarPosts: 929Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:36 pmLocation: UK Gender: Cake

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SchrodingersFinch wrote:Youtube stores a lot of data in the video insight. It shows the region of the votes and unique users so Youtube probably has IP address stored somewhere. All of my one-star votes came from Canada, by only 1-6 unique users.

Dealing with votebotters shouldn't be that hard for Youtube. It should also be quite easy to restore the ratings.


You would hope that was the case, but I'll cover why it isn't that easy in part 2 :)
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