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Playlist "Jesus was Julius Caesar" that is not Sheitgeist, or Joseph Atwill related.

Keep in mind that the Greek Ptolemy I created the God "Serapis" to unify conquered Egypt.

At the very least please give a quick glance at the Channel Art available in the 1st link.......Thank You

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(WIKI FOR CONVENIENT BASE REFERENCE)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar's_Comet (Star from the East/compare to Chi Rho)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho (1st Christogram & Cross of Constantine)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clementia (Caesar's Divine foregiveness & mercy)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lictor (12 Messengers/followers)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Triumvirate (3 Wise men)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus_(mythology) (Alpha & Omega past/future)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitoline_Triad (Trinity of ancient Rome)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhea_Silvia (Virgin birth thru a God)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia (Before there was a Christmas)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaion (Sacred trophy of victory)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechane (Stage mechanical device)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_(mythology) (Goddess of Victory in battle)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dies_sanguinis (Day of sacred blood,flagellation & cutting)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decemviri (Commission of ten men to write up a code of law)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tables (twelve Ivory/Bronze? tablets of Laws)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_ ... hree_Gauls (Altar of lugdunum)


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Matthew 1:18 -but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit.

Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Augustus 94.4 P267

4 I have read the following story in the books of Asclepias of Mendes entitled Theologumena.When Atia (Atia Balba Caesonia) had come in the middle of the night to the solemn service of Apollo, she had her litter set down in the temple and fell asleep, while the rest of the matrons also slept. On a sudden a serpent glided up to her and shortly went away. When she awoke, she purified herself, as if after the embraces of her husband, and at once there appeared on her body a mark in colours like a serpent, and she could never get rid of it; so that presently she ceased ever to go to the public baths. In the tenth month after that Augustus was born and was therefore regarded as the son of Apollo.Atia too, before she gave him birth, dreamed that her vitals were borne up to the stars and spread over the whole extent of land and sea, while Octavius (Augustus) dreamed that the sun rose from Atia's womb.

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Matthew 2:3 When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him.

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 1.3 P443

3 Moreover, Caesar was not satisfied to be overlooked at first by Sulla, who was busy with a multitude of proscriptions, but he came before the people as candidate for the priesthood, although he was not yet much more than a stripling. 4 To this candidacy Sulla secretly opposed himself, and took measures to make Caesar fail in it, and when he was deliberating about putting him to death and some said there was no reason for killing a mere boy like him, he declared that they had no sense if they did not see in this boy many Mariuses.

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Mark 6:4 "Only in his home town,among his relatives,and only in his own house is a prophet without honor."5 He could not do any miracles there,except lay his hands on a few sick people,and heal them, 6 And He was amazed at their lack of faith.


Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 39.8 P541

8 So completely had Caesar given up his cause for lost that,when Pompey,either from excessive caution or by some chance,did not follow up his great success,but withdrew after he had shut up the fugitives within their entrenchments,Caesar said to his friends as he left them:"To-day victory had been with the enemy,if they had had a victor in command."9 Then going by himself to his tent,and lying down,he spent that most distressful of all nights in vain reflections,convinced that he had shown bad generalship.

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Matthew 8:1 When he came from the mountainside large crowds followed him.

Julius Caesar, Gallic War Commentaries Book 8.51 (Writes in 3rd person)

Caesar, on his arrival, was received by the principal towns and colonies with incredible respect and affection; for this was the first time he came since the war against united Gaul. Nothing was omitted which could be thought of for the ornament of the gates, roads, and every place through which Caesar was to pass. All the people with their children went out to meet him. Sacrifices were offered up in every quarter. The market places and temples were laid out with entertainments, as if anticipating the joy of a most splendid triumph. So great was the magnificence of the richer and zeal of the poorer ranks of the people.

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Mark 7:15 "Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him.Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean' ."

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 17.9 P485

9 Of his indifference in regard to his diet the following circumstance also is brought in proof. When the host who was entertaining him in Mediolanum, Valerius Leo, served up asparagus dressed with myrrh instead of olive oil, Caesar ate of it without ado, and rebuked his friends when they showed displeasure. 10 "Surely," said he, "it were enough not to eat what you don't like; but he who finds fault with ill-breeding like this is ill-bred himself."

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Matthew 18:6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin,
it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck,and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

Matthew 18:8 If your hand,or your foot causes you to sin,cut it off,and throw it away.

Matthew 18:9 If your eye causes you to sin,gouge it out,and throw it away.

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 16.1 P481

1 His soldiers showed such good will and zeal in his service that those who in their previous campaigns had been in no way superior to others were invincible and irresistible in confronting every danger to enhance Caesar's fame. 2 Such a man, for instance, was Acilius, who, in the sea-fight at Massalia, boarded a hostile ship and had his right hand cut off with a sword, but clung with the other hand to his shield, and dashing it into the faces of his foes, routed them all and got possession of the vessel. 3 Such a man, again, was Cassius Scaeva, who, in the battle at Dyrrhachium, had his eye struck out with an arrow, his shoulder transfixed with one javelin and his thigh with another, and received on his shield the blows of one hundred and thirty missiles. 4 In this plight, he called the enemy to him as though he would surrender. Two of them, accordingly, coming up, he lopped off the shoulder of one with his sword, smote the other in the face and put him to flight, and came off safely himself with the aid of his comrades. 5 Again, in Britain, when the enemy had fallen upon the foremost centurions, who had plunged into a watery marsh, a soldier, while Caesar in person was watching the battle, dashed into the midst of the fight, displayed many conspicuous deeds of daring, and rescued the centurions, after the Barbarians had been routed. 6 Then he himself, making his way with difficulty after all the rest, plunged into the muddy current, and at last, without his shield, partly swimming and partly wading, got across. 7 Caesar and his company were amazed and came to meet the soldier with cries of joy; but he, in great dejection, and with a burst of tears, cast himself at Caesar's feet, begging pardon for the loss of his shield. 8 Again, in Africa, Scipio captured a ship of Caesar's in which Granius Petro, who had been appointed quaestor, was sailing. Of the rest of the passengers Scipio made booty, but told the quaestor that he offered him his life. 9 Granius, however, remarking that it was the custom with Caesar's soldiers not to receive but to offer mercy, killed himself with a blow of his sword.

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Mark 6:38 "How many loaves do you have?"

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 39.1 P537

39 1 After this, Antony put in from Brundisium with his forces, and Caesar was emboldened to challenge Pompey to battle. Pompey was well posted and drew ample supplies both from land and sea; while Caesar had no great abundance at first, and afterwards was actually hard pressed for want of provisions. 2 But his soldiers dug up a certain root, mixed it with milk, and ate it.Once, too, they made loaves of it, and running up to the enemy's outposts, threw the loaves inside or tossed them to one another, adding by way of comment that as long as the earth produced such roots, they would not stop besieging Pompey. 3 Pompey, however, would not allow either the loaves or these words to reach the main body of his army. For his soldiers were dejected, fearing the ferocity and hardiness of their enemies, who were like wild beasts in their eyes.

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Mark 5 They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes.2 When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him. 3 This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. 4 For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7 He shouted at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? In God’s name don’t torture me!” 8 For Jesus had said to him, “Come out of this man, you impure spirit!”9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”
“My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” 10 And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area.11 A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12 The demons begged Jesus, “Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them.” 13 He gave them permission, and the impure spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned.14 Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened. 15 When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid. 16 Those who had seen it told the people what had happened to the demon-possessed man—and told about the pigs as well. 17 Then the people began to plead with Jesus to leave their region.18 As Jesus was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon-possessed begged to go with him. 19 Jesus did not let him, but said, “Go home to your own people and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.” 20 So the man went away and began to tell in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him. And all the people were amazed.


Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 20.4 p493

4 But when he heard that the Belgae, who were the most powerful of the Gauls and occupied the third part of all their country, had revolted, and had assembled unknown myriads of armed men, he turned back at once and marched thither with great speed. 5 He fell upon the enemy as they were plundering the Gauls that were in alliance with Rome, and so routed and destroyed the least scattered and most numerous of them, after a disgraceful struggle on their part, that the Romans could cross lakes and deep rivers for the multitude of dead bodies in them. 6 All the rebels who dwelt along the ocean submitted without a battle; against the Nervii, however, the most savage and warlike of the people in these parts, Caesar led his forces. 7 The Nervii, who dwelt in dense woods, and had placed their families and possessions in a recess of the forest at farthest remove from the enemy, at a time when Caesar was fortifying a camp and did not expect the battle, fell upon him suddenly, sixty thousand strong. They routed his cavalry, and surrounded the seventh and twelfth legions and slew all their centurions, 8 and had not Caesar snatched a shield, made his way through the combatants in front of him, and hurled himself upon the Barbarians; and had not the tenth legion, at sight of his peril, run down from the heights and cut the ranks of the enemy to pieces, not a Roman, it is thought, would have survived. 9 As it was, however, owing to Caesar's daring, they fought beyond their powers, as the saying is, and even then did not rout the Nervii, but cut them down as they defended themselves; 10 for out of sixty thousand only five hundred are said to have come off alive, and only three of their senators out of four hundred.



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Mark 1:34 and Jesus healed many who had various diseases.

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 41.6 P543

41 6 Caesar accomplished most of his march with difficulty, since no one would sell him provisions, and everybody despised him on account of his recent defeat; 7 but after he had taken Gomphi, a city of Thessaly, he not only provided food for his soldiers, but also relieved them of their disease unexpectedly. 8 For they fell in with plenty of wine, and after drinking freely of it, and then revelling and rioting on their march, by means of their drunkenness they drove away and got rid of their trouble, since they brought their bodies into a different habit.

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 12.2 P471

2 After bringing the war to a successful close, he was equally happy in adjusting the problems of peace, by establishing concord between the cities, and particularly by healing the dissensions between debtors and creditors.

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Mark 6:48 He saw the discples strainning at the oars, because the wind was against them. About the fourth watch of the night he went out to them, walking on the lake.

Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Julius Caesar 64.1 P85

64 1 At Alexandria, while assaulting a bridge, he was forced by a sudden sally of the enemy to take to a small skiff; when many others threw themselves into the same boat, he plunged into the sea, and after swimming for two hundred paces, got away to the nearest ship, holding up his left hand all the way, so as not to wet some papers which he was carrying, and dragging his cloak after him with his teeth, to keep the enemy from getting it as a trophy.

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Mark 6:50-:51 "Take courage! It is I. Don't be afraid." Then he climbed into the boat with them, and the wind died down.

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 38.1 P537

38 1 At Apollonia, since the force which he had with him was not a match for the enemy and the delay of his troops on the other side caused him perplexity and distress, Caesar conceived the dangerous plan of embarking in a twelve-oared boat, without any one's knowledge, and going over to Brundisium, though the sea was encompassed by such large armaments of the enemy. 2 At night, accordingly, after disguising himself in the dress of a slave, he went on board, threw himself down as one of no account, and kept quiet. 3 While the river Aoüs was carrying the boat down towards the sea, the early morning breeze, which at that time usually made the mouth of the river calm by driving back the waves, was quelled by a strong wind which blew from the sea during the night; 4 the river therefore chafed against the inflow of the sea and the opposition of its billows, and was rough, being beaten back with a great din and violent eddies, so that it was impossible for the master of the boat to force his way along. He therefore ordered the sailors to come about in order to retrace his course. 5 But Caesar, perceiving this, disclosed himself, took the master of the boat by the hand, who was terrified at sight of him, and said: "Come, good man, be bold and fear naught; thou carryest Caesar and Caesar's fortune in thy boat."69 6 The sailors forgot the storm, and laying to their oars, tried with all alacrity to force their way down the river. But since it was impossible, after taking much water and running great hazard at the mouth of the river, Caesar very reluctantly suffered the captain to put about. 7 When he came back, his soldiers met him in throngs, finding much fault and sore displeased with him because he did not believe that even with them alone he was able to conquer, but was troubled, and risked his life for the sake of the absent as though distrusting those who were present.

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Matthew 8:22 But Jesus told him, "Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 34.6 P527

6 against Domitius, however, who was holding Corfinium with thirty cohorts under his command, he marched, and pitched his camp near by. Domitius, despairing of his enterprise, asked his physician, who was a slave, for a poison; and taking what was given him, drank it, intending to die. 7 But after a little, hearing that Caesar showed most wonderful clemency towards his prisoners, he bewailed his fate, and blamed the rashness of his purpose. 8 Then his physician bade him be of good cheer, since what he had drunk was a sleeping-potion and not deadly; whereupon Domitius rose up overjoyed and went to Caesar, the pledge of whose right hand he received, only to desert him and go back to Pompey. 9 When tidings of these things came to Rome, men were made more cheerful, and some of the fugitives turned back.

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Matthew 14:10 And had John beheaded in prison.

Appian The Civil Wars Book II 86.1 P385

The servants of Pothinus cut off Pompey's head and kept it for Caesar, in expectation of a large reward, but he visited condign punishment on them for their nefarious deed. The remainder of the body was buried by somebody on the shore, and a small monument was erected over it, on which somebody else wrote this inscription:—

"How pitiful a tomb for one so rich in temples."

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Matthew 14:13 When Jesus heard what had happened, he withdrew by Boat privately to a solitary place.

Appian The Civil Wars Book II 90.1 P395 (2nd half of paragraph)

He ascended the Nile with 400 ships, exploring the country in company with Cleopatra and generally enjoying himself with her. The details, however, of these events are related more particularly in my Egyptian history. Caesar could not bear to look at the head of Pompey when it was brought to him, but ordered that it be buried, and set apart for it a small plot of ground near the city which was dedicated to Nemesis, but in my time, while the Roman emperor Trajan was exterminating the Jewish race in Egypt, it was devastated by them in the exigencies of the war.

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John 19:15 ..."We have no King but Caesar,"...

Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Julius Caesar P109 79.2

But from that time on he could not rid himself of the odium of having aspired to the title of monarch, although he replied to the commons, when they hailed him as king, "I am Caesar and no king," and at the Lupercalia, when the consul Antony several times attempted to place a crown upon his head as he spoke from the rostra, he put it aside and at last sent it to the Capitol, to be offered to Jupiter Optimus Maximus.

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Appian The Civil Wars Book II 146.1 P499

Extreme passion he uncovered the body of Caesar,lifted his robe on the point of a spear and shook it aloft, pierced with dagger-thrusts and red with the dictator's blood. Whereupon the people, like a chorus in a play, mourned with him in the most sorrowful manner,and from sorrow became filled again with anger.

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Appian The Civil Wars Book II 147.1 P501

Raised above the bier an image of Caesar himself made of wax.The body itself,as it lay on its back on the couch, could not be seen.The image was turned round and round by a mechanical device (Tropaion/Mechane),showing the twenty-three wounds in all parts of the body and on the face,that had been dealt to him so brutally.

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Matthew 27:51 At that moment the Curtain of the Temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The Earth shook, and the Rocks split.

Appian The Civil Wars Book II 147.1 P501 (latter 3/4th of the paragraph)

The people could no longer bear the pitiful sight presented to them. They groaned, and, girding up their loins, they burned the senate-chamber where Caesar was slain, and ran hither and thither searching for the murderers, who had fled some time previously. They were so mad with rage and grief that meeting the tribune Cinna, on account of his similarity of name to the praetor Cinna who had made a speech against Caesar, not waiting to hear any explanation about the similarity of name, they tore him to pieces like wild beasts so that no part of him was ever found for burial. They carried fire to the houses of the other murderers, but the domestics besought them to desist. So the people abstained from the use of fire, but they threatened to come back with arms on the following day (Tribune's were sacrosanct,in the sense that any assault on their person was prohibited.)

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Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Julius Caesar 84.5 P117

At the height of the public grief a throng of foreigners went about lamenting each after the fashion of his country, above all the Jews, who even flocked to the place for several successive nights.(Caesar was seen as Messiah due to his respect of their Temple/Religion, and "Cyrus the Great" several centuries before was also seen as a nonJewish Messiah.)

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Matthew 27:5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left.Then he went away and hanged himself.

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 69.13 p609

13 but as he was about to fight the second battle, the same phantom visited him again at night, and though it said nothing to him, Brutus understood his fate, and plunged headlong into danger. 14 He did not fall in battle, however, but after the rout retired to a crest of ground, put his naked sword to his breast (while a certain friend, as they say, helped to drive the blow home), and so died.


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Matthew 27:45 From the sixth hour darkness came over the land.

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 69.4 P607

4 and among events of divine ordering, there was the great comet, which showed itself in great splendour for seven nights after Caesar's murder, and then disappeared; also, the obscuration of the sun's rays. 5 For during all that year its orb rose pale and without radiance, while the heat that came down from it was slight and ineffectual, so that the air in its circulation was dark and heavy owing to the feebleness of the warmth that penetrated it, and the fruits, imperfect and half ripe, withered away and shrivelled up on account of the coldness of the atmosphere.


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Mark 2:2 "- We saw his star in the East and have come to worship him."

Matthew 28:3 His appearence was like Lightning, and his clothes were White as Snow.

Suetonius,The Lives of the Caesars Life of Julius Caesar 88.1 P119

He died in the fifty-sixth year of his age, and was numbered among the gods, not only by a formal decree, but also in the conviction of the common people. For at the first of the games which his heir Augustus gave in honour of his apotheosis, a comet shone for seven successive days, rising about the eleventh hour, and was believed to be the soul of Caesar, who had been taken to heaven; and this is why a star is set upon the crown of his head in his statue.

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Comet of Caesar;Sidus Iulium ("Julian Star") or Caesaris Astrum ("Star of Caesar").

May 18, 44 BCE (China)
July 23–25, 44 BCE (Rome)
Absolute magnitude: 4.0 (Nearly as bright as Caesar's celestial Mother the Goddess of Love Venus) "kometes" Greek for Star with long Hair.

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Matthew 27:52 The Tombs broke open and the bodies of many Holy people who had died were raised to life.

Matthew 27:54 When the Centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the Earthquake and all that happened, they were terrified , and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son of God!"

The poet Virgil; Georgics (26 BCE) "The Portents At Julius Caesar’s Death" BkI:461-497

So, the sun will give you signs of what late evening brings,

and from where a fair-weather wind blows the clouds,

or what the rain-filled southerly intends. Who dares to say

the sun tricks us? He often warns us that hidden troubles

threaten, that treachery and secret wars are breeding.

He pitied Rome when Caesar was killed,

and hid his shining face in gloomy darkness,

and an impious age feared eternal night.

At that time earth, and the level sea,

troublesome dogs, and fateful birds, gave omens.

How often Etna inundated the Cyclopes’s fields,

streams of lava pouring from her shattered furnace,

hurling gouts of flame and molten rock!

In Germany they heard the clash of weapons,

across the sky, the Alps shook with strange quakes.

A great shout was heard, openly, in the silent groves,

and pale ghosts in strange forms were seen in the dark of night,

and, ah horror, creatures spoke like men.

Rivers stopped, earth split, and sad, the ivories wept

in the temples, and the bronze sweated.

Eridanus, king of the rivers, washed away forests

in the whirl of his maddened vortex, and swept

cattle and stables over the plains. Nor at that time

was there any lack of ominous marks in the dark entrails,

blood flowing in the wells, and mighty cities

echoing at night with the howls of wolves.

Never did greater lightning flash from a clear sky,

never did fatal comets shine more often.

So Philippi again saw Roman armies clash

amongst themselves, with equal weapons:

And the gods thought it not unfitting that Emathia and the broad plain

of Haemus, should twice be enriched with our blood.

And a time will come, when in those lands,

the farmer labouring at the earth with curved plough,

will come upon spears eaten by scabrous rust,

or strike an empty helmet with his heavy hoe,

and wonder at giant bones in the opened grave.

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Ancient Romans would add water to wine,because drinking straight wine was considered uncivilized.

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http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... stus*.html

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... esar*.html

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... rs/2*.html

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R ... lius*.html

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/caesa ... Gal08.html

http://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITB ... c533589855

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Evidence for Julius Caesar besides his own writings for example "Gallic Wars Commentaries."

~Sallust(86-34BC)~Suetonius(c75-120AD)~Plutarch (46-127AD)~Appian(c95-165AD)~Cicero
~Dio Cassius~Livy~Lucan~Valerius Maximus~Vitruvius~Catullus
Plus:inscriptions/monuments/statues/coins

Evidence for Jesus is only the New Testament (unless you count vague OT prophecy.)

Jesus 6 BCE-33 CE? (No mention of Jesus by anyone,or even about Matthew 27:52-:53.)

Pauline Epistles 51-58 CE (The letters considered genuine tell very little about an Earthly Jesus, Not an eyewitness, and have some interpolations/redactions.)

Romans Sack Judea 70 CE

The Gospels are labeled by Church tradition, and are from unknown Greek educated writers.

Mark 65-70? CE (Dates are an estimate from textual scrutiny by scholars.)
Matthew 75-80? CE
Luke 75-90 CE?
John 85-125? CE
Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:15 pm
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If anyone happens to come across actual historical information that ancient Roman citizens smeared ashes on their foreheads from Caesar's funeral pyre?...Please post it here.Thanks
Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:19 pm
davros of skaroUser avatarPosts: 31Joined: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:35 pm Gender: Male

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Now what did "Constantine I" stop the persecution of?

Persecution of Christians, or was there an infighting of the fractured sects of the Imperial
Cult like the Religious fighting each other we see today?


The early church apologist Eusebius was associated with "Constantine I" at the time in one
form, or another.


Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, Vol. 8, chapter 2.

"We shall introduce into this history in general only those events which may be useful first

to ourselves and afterwards to posterity."


Letters of Emperor Antoninus Pius to the Greeks.

Forth century Bishop Eusebius (Ecclesiastic History, IV, 13). In these “letters”, Eusebius has this 2nd century pagan forbidding "tumults (agitation) against the Christians." Most historians concede them to be frauds, probably composed by Eusebius himself.


Letter from Jesus to King of Edessa

Offered up as having been written by Jesus himself to a king (Scholars now believe composed by Eusebius).



Magdalene=Tower

fem. proper name, from Latin (Maria) Magdalena, from Greek Magdalene, literally "woman of Magdala," from Aramaic Maghdela, place on the Sea of Galilee, literally "tower."


Cleopatra had a son with Caesar named "Caesarion",and titled "King of Kings".Caesarion was put to death by Octavian on the advice "There cannot be two Caesars."


Cleopatra VI:The Lighthouse of Alexandria,tower built by the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Greeks that ruled Egypt.Her mausoleum is uncertain, though the Egyptian Antiquities Service believes it is in or near the temple of Taposiris Magna (tomb of Osiris,wich is near a reconstruction of the lighthouse tower), southwest of Alexandria near Lake Mariout (The name derives from Mareotis or Marea (Etymology of Mary), the name of the lake,and small Capital in ancient times.


Mark 1:15 "The time has come," he said "The Kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!"

Plutarch, The Parallel Lives Life of Caesar 11.6 P470

6 His friends were astonished, and asked the reason for his tears. "Do you not think," said he, "it is matter for sorrow that while Alexander, at my age, was already king of so many peoples, I have as yet achieved no brilliant success?"[/QUOTE]



Yes there are many similarities with Augustus, and Julius Caesar to Jesus Christ.

Julius claimed lineage to the Goddess of love "Venus."

Julius forgave sins by invoking the Goddess "Clementia" the personification of clemency.

Octavian's (Augustus) posthumous adoption made him "Divis Fillious" (son of God), and was called the "Prince of Peace" during the Pax Romana.

Julius gave his private garden to the public, and every citizen money in his will.


Francesco Carrota's film "Gospel of Caesar", or his book "Jesus Was Caesar" lists more, and goes in more detail.


The euhemerism of Pagan deities, combined with Platonism philosophy, Judaism, the Logos of Philo. Gnosticism, and the Imperial Cult of Caesar rolled into one person.It's like when Companies consolidate into one big Corporation.


Someone sent me a video with a linguistic hypothesis? :?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmhpfWexeWw
Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:28 pm
davros of skaroUser avatarPosts: 31Joined: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:35 pm Gender: Male

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By Jove nobody here has got it?

Jove:Roman god of the bright sky, late 14c., from Latin Iovis, from PIE *dyeu- "to shine," with derivatives referring to the sky, heavens, a god (see diurnal, and cf. Zeus). In classical Latin, the compound Iuppiter replaced Old Latin Iovis as the god's name.


jovial (adj.)
1580s, "under the influence of the planet Jupiter," from Middle French jovial (16c.), from Italian joviale, literally "pertaining to Jupiter," and directly from Latin Iovialis "of Jupiter," from Iovius (used as genitive of Iuppiter) "Jupiter," Roman god of the sky (see Jove). The meaning "good-humored, merry," is from astrological belief that those born under the sign of the planet Jupiter are of such dispositions. Related: Jovially.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?all ... hmode=none


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crosier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lituus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit

Spiritus (Latin for Breath/Air)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQvANz4YGxE
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davros of skaro wrote:By Jove nobody here has got it?


Got what? To be honest, I didn't read your thread. It sounds a lot like inane babble.
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davros of skaroUser avatarPosts: 31Joined: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:35 pm Gender: Male

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Inferno wrote:
davros of skaro wrote:By Jove nobody here has got it?


Got what? To be honest, I didn't read your thread. It sounds a lot like inane babble.


Oh. Nevermind then, just let me inanely babble on.Thanks



The Gospels are full of Paganism, and here is an example.

John 6:54

"Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the
last day."

This is a ritual for the God of Wine "Dionysus" where the flesh is the Pulp (Grape Skins),
and the Blood is Wine.

This latter rite was a sacrament akin to communion in which the participants assumed the
strength and character of the god by symbolically eating the raw flesh and drinking the blood
of his symbolic incarnation. Having symbolically eaten his body and drunk his blood, the
celebrants became possessed by Dionysus.This belief was even carried over to sword making
where animal, or human Bones were added to the raw Iron in the forging process, which
consequently added Carbon, but believed to enhance it's magical properties (being able to
bend without breaking.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omophagia

Take a look at the symbolism in the picture of an ancient Greek vase.The women are
gathered around an effigy of Dionysus mounted on a sacred Tropaion (symbol of victory.)The
Women are symbolically eating the flesh, and blood of their God that is being ladled out from
the Wine filled Vases.Sometimes a special plant would be added to the mix so they can see
their God, and Angels flying around in person (notice the actions of the Women on the far left, and right.)

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